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If Christopher Nolan Were An Investment Banker……

Posted by TJ on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 , under , , | comments (0)





The levels of dream securitization that this movie presents will put even goliath’s of i-bankers to shame. Though unusual and creepy yet distant resemblance to “Potemkin villages” can be found in this movie. And unlike the movie dreamy projections, this was a real world manifestations, although differing means but the same purpose. I must say the movie jolted me out of my consciousness, thanks to such story line , where in i had difficulties to understand. But my eternal curiosity after being fed by elixirs of wisdom from my dear friends on some issues, finally i have come to the conclusion very much stating and supporting my limited idea and purpose behind my topic. …….

Why is everyone so enchanted by this much denounced yet hallowed profession (exceptions please don’t mind). And me too. The sweet aroma of greenbacks devoid of any exchange rate risk leverages our capital minds to such an extent that we are ready to build layers upon layers on nothing. Yet a dream job for many people. Sometimes it’s for good , sometimes it’s for bad. U need someone to blame, get them. U need someone to give u an advice , approach them. U need to write something spicy , involve them. . Perhaps i feel i-bankers have become the quintessential punching bags of our time. And the grave irony is that when a moviemaker follows the same in letter and spirits , he is given an italian leathered and french feathered red carpet and our poor bankers have to swallow deadly pills in the form of public humiliation and litigation prescribed by doctors of the so called government regulators .


 But my protaganist doesn’t have to be like that yet still considering his litany’s of movies , i am bound to ask what if he were an i banker.

1  Dreams would be traded/sold in a tranche ranging from great to worse dream.


 Wannabe i bankers would have been reading “ interpretation of dreams” by sigmund freud rather than myers and   damodaran.


Psychologists would have been more in demand rather than a cfa level 3 .


 Jokers would have been the favorite dealers.


 The job’s prestige would have shifted from quantitative projections to illusion creations.


Aa - and indian ayurveda industry would have been the microsoft for these bankers.

Investment Banker vs. Management Consultant

Posted by TJ on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 , under , , , | comments (34)




I never knew that there was a huge fight between the bankers and the consultants
Just came across this awesome video which says it all ...





Read the blog ( original source http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/banker-vs-consultant-why-the-banker-wins-with-a-knockout-in-round-1/ )

attached with the video, will give detailed explanations to novices ;)



“What’s missing from your resume is a focus on the results… I see all your recommendations and the projects you worked on, but I don’t see what happened as a result of your work.”


-McKinsey Recruiter to Me, 3 Years Ago


Some of you have asked about consulting (as in management consulting, not IT consulting ) vs. investment banking and which is “better” to pursue.

So here’s why investment bankers dominate management consultants, and why you should do banking.

The Myth: Bankers vs. Consultants Video

On the day the infamous Leveraged Sellout video was released, I received about 10 forwards from readers and friends, so I’m guessing almost everyone has seen it by now.

But just in case you haven’t, here it is again for good measure:



Although it’s fiction, the video does a surprisingly good job of summarizing the bankers vs. consultants debate.

“Be a Burnout Banker, Teaching Math at My Prep School”

There’s a lot of burnout in both fields. My management consultant friend almost quit after he had to work 14 hours on his birthday once. True, consultants get uninterrupted weekends… sometimes… but regardless of whether you’re a banker or consultant, you’re going to work a lot.

To imagine the schedule of a consultant, just take my Week in the Life series and add traveling to Idaho at the beginning of the week and coming back at the end of the week. Also delete all references to quantitative work and replace them with finger-painting.

“Nothing but Grunt Work”

Not quite.

There’s a lot of grunt work in both industries. In banking, it’s more quantitative and no one cares about offering “strategic insight” and putting things in quadrants – they just care what the Pro Forma EPS is.

“Make a Really Significant Impact and Get Home by 7:15″

I know of no consultants who get home by 7:15. One of my friends is an IT Consultant and even he doesn’t get home by 7:15.

So far, banking and consulting might seem similar… but let’s take a look at the first part of this claim – “Make a Really Significant Impact.”

Despite what the consultant argues, bankers typically make far more of an impact than consultants. True, some transactions fall apart, but when they happen you get a new public company or a new conglomerate.

By contrast, you never know if the recommendations consultants make will be implemented.

Got results?

“Mining for Gold out in Saskatchewan”

“Business travel” sounds cool to people who haven’t traveled much before, but it’s less appealing when you’re flying to Saskatchewan every week in February. Consultants are always on the road, and while bankers do travel occasionally, it is much less of a burden.

It’s fun to live in another country for an extended period, but it’s much less fun to travel back and forth every single week.

Plus, even if you are stationed in Saskatchewan you probably won’t discover any gold.

“You Try to Add Value… I Straight Create It”

At the junior level, no banker or consultant “creates value” and they rarely even “add value.” Senior bankers who negotiate on their clients’ behalf can sometimes “add value” by getting the buyer to pay more, but even that is rare.

Both banks and consulting firms are in the business of giving advice: advice on what to do financially and what to do operationally. Companies actually “create value.”

“House in the Hamptons and a Penthouse Loft”

Even at the market peak in mid-2007, 1st Year Analysts made only $150K ($60K base + $90K bonus). While that’s a lot of money for someone fresh out of school, it’s certainly not enough for a house in the Hamptons and a penthouse loft – especially after taxes.

Bankers do make more than consultants, but it will take quite some time to turn yourself into Gordon Gekko.

“But You Still Can’t Buy Bottles with Starwood Points”

True.

Consultants make a fraction of bankers’ bonuses – firms are notoriously secretive about exact numbers, but even in good times a $10K bonus isn’t unreasonable for consultants.

You could argue that they work a lot less and therefore make about the same hourly wage, but I’m not convinced. Sure, you won’t pull consistent 100-hour weeks in consulting, but it’s a lot more than 9-5, especially when you take into account the travel.

And even if it is more per hour, good luck having enough for bottles, let alone models.

“Take This Mouse and Get Back to Making $60K a Year”

Most consultants make more than $60K, but not by much.

However, they definitely don’t know how to use Excel properly – just ask that consultant we hired after I unplugged his mouse and he almost fainted.

The Consultant Formerly Known as Banker

One year, we hired a summer intern who was pretty good as far as investment banking interns go. He didn’t do anything stupid, he always smiled, and he even bought us drinks. But he “couldn’t take the hours” and he went to consulting full-time instead, in search of that elusive “work-life balance.”

I spoke with him the other day and he said the hours were pretty bad and he was being dragged around between 3 continents on clients’ whims – in other words, it was actually worse than banking, and he was getting paid less.

Damn, It Feels Good to Be a… Consultant?!

I didn’t continue with consulting because:

I hated constant travel.
I wanted to get tangible results rather than making “strategic recommendations” to management.
Oh yeah, I couldn’t tolerate making $60K a year. Even $70K is pushing it.
That said, you may still want to consider consulting if your original plan was finance:

Consulting is diversified in different industries, so the financial chaos won’t hit it quite as hard.
No consulting firms have subprime anything on their balance sheets.
You might still sneak into PE if you get lucky. Golden Gate Capital, for example, hires most of its Associates from Bain Consulting.
Rebuttal?

If you’re a consultant who now feels angered, feel free to write in with a rebuttal and I’ll publish some of the most entertaining responses. Make sure you also enclose some of those Starwood points.

Phew!!! what a blog.... original source
http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/banker-vs-consultant-why-the-banker-wins-with-a-knockout-in-round-1/